May 31, 2008
An open reply.
So many issues have been raised here and in other corners to Jonathan Marlow's entry that came to be known as "They didn't build their sales model for you" that he felt another entry might be in order. Opinions expressed, etc. Updated through 6/2:
We all see the world through our own prism of personal experience. In my "rant" (I'd characterize it as a "ramble" myself) from earlier this week, I attempted to make a case that filmmakers should not view the likely non-acquisition of their work from festival screenings as a failure. There are plenty of other distribution opportunities out there, although not many of them are particularly lucrative at this moment in time. Then again, it's not really about the money, is it? Only a fool makes a movie "on spec" with the notion of some future windfall.
Given all of the public and private support for my diatribe, there are always a few folks that get into a tizzy when confronted with reality. Reality, however, is debatable. Spout's Karina Longworth, for instance, described me as the film acquisitions fellow "for GreenCine's DVD-by-mail main site." That was true about a year ago. Tom Hall's thin-skinned piece (more about that in a moment) says that I don't "seem to know much about how film festivals work." I wager it would take about 20 seconds to discover that I have something of a familiarity with festivals. I attend about 40 such events every year and I've worked for about a dozen (either directly or in-directly). This is what passes for journalism these days? Little or no research? Meanwhile, Agnes Varnum writes, "Do people really not know this information?" Unfortunately, not as many folks are familiar with these talking points as I had hoped. I'd initially intended to write a compare-and-contrast piece about the Independent Film Festival of Boston, the Tribeca Film Festival and the San Francisco International Film Festival - something of an embellishment on the already excellent coverage of these festivals on the Daily - from the relatively unique perspective of someone who attended all three. Yet, at each festival, I talked to numerous filmmakers with tales of pending acquisition just on the horizon. I've been talking these same points since my days at Amazon.com in the 1990s. It's slightly disappointing that these directors are still dreaming the dream.
To be clear, the piece was also not-so-subtly considered to be a bit of a challenge to the few theatrical acquisition establishments that are still standing. I'd be delighted to see Barry Jenkins's Medicine for Melancholy play at multiplexes across the country. Add to that about a hundred other features that I've seen over the last decade that sadly never went much of anywhere post-festival circuit. Prove me wrong! I'm still waiting.
Meanwhile, back to Tom and his response. I've never attended the Sarasota Film Festival although I've only heard great things about it. My only limited experience with Sarasota is their party at the Toronto Film Festival about two years ago. Admittedly, it's the only party that I've attended in Toronto that I have ever enjoyed. I figured, perhaps mistakenly, that if they could get that right, they probably know how to throw a good festival, too (and, for ten years, they've evidently been doing exactly that). A quick look at the programming for the most recent edition, for which Tom was largely (if not entirely) responsible, clearly demonstrates a solid event. Let's get something clear, though - "[O]ur festival featured over 220 films this year and I was proud to show each title among them." 220? You've made a decision to have a large festival and I can't argue with that choice. However, you can't expect me (or anyone) to believe that every film was good. Without calling them out, I see several dodgy ones in the list. I also see Woodpecker and the aforementioned Medicine for Melancholy. Tom's marks for independent street-cred are duly noted. Although Sarasota clearly isn't one of the festivals that exploit the filmmaker and their work, it's naïve to suggest that such festivals don't exist. In other words, I didn't have Tom and/or Sarasota in mind when I was scribbling this piece out on a flight (back from a festival, naturally). Nor True/False. Nor Ann Arbor. Nor TIE. All great events, from what I hear, that I have yet to attend.
Further along, Tom notes that "non-profit arts organizations are not structured as a replacement for traditional for-profit distribution models." I never suggested that they were. As a Board member of a non-profit arts organization that presents non-commercial films from around the world, I would never suggest anything of the sort. I believe, though, that I am largely to blame for this essential misunderstanding since the theme was picked up by Sujewa Ekanayake as well. It was not my goal to get festivals to pay filmmakers. While it is gradually becoming de rigueur for films with distribution in place to get a few dollars for the right to show these works, Tom has a vested interest to discourage such efforts. I don't blame him for that. In fact, the economics of such events don't warrant the proliferation of such a system at all (although if Sujewa can figure out how to make it happen, I'll definitely do what I can to support it).
"Each event stands alone and should be weighed on its individual merits, benefits and shortcomings." I thought that was what I was doing. "What film festivals share with distributors is that they both screen films in a theater. But does that make them the same thing?" Not at all, but therein is the crux of the issue. "Ersatz" was not a word chosen lightly. Film festivals have become an "artificial substitute" for the real thing only because the real thing has largely disappeared. Independent exhibitors are rapidly disappearing, too. The plea isn't for an end to film festivals or independent exhibitors. The plea is for every filmmaker that has shelved their work or hidden it away in a closet or basement to make it available for all to see. They should not be discouraged by the sorry state of affairs but should be, instead, encouraged by all of the new opportunities for their work to be seen - new opportunities that will ideally bring them a few dollars, Euros or Pesos as well (and perhaps, eventually, enough money to make another film if they're self-financing their own projects). Like any sensible person, I'd rather see a movie in a theater (either at a festival or in theatrical release). Like any reasonable person, I'll see a movie-of-interest any way possible. DVD? TV? On a set-top box? On a laptop? On a mobile phone? Although my Luddite side is not too fond of this last option, I'm ultimately format-agnostic.
As for "one of the most condescending ideas," I'll do you one better. About 20 years ago, David Thomas (frontman for the legendary Pere Ubu) suggested that there were far too many bands in the world. I think it's time to revive his appeal and apply it to the motion picture industry. There are far too many people making movies that have no business picking up a camera. I've said it on panels and now I'll put it in print - if you're a filmmaker and you suspect that you're not up for the challenge, please stop! We've had enough. The business of filmmaking, like the process of politics, often discourages our best and brightest. These days, the good ones generally give up on the Sisyphean hurdles and find some other practical line of work. Audiences are then regularly left with a particular personality type that continues to make films-about-nothing long after they should've stopped. If we can promote the former and deride the latter, we've done our part.
Of course, the odds of making a good movie are against us all. I've been involved in my share of mediocre efforts. For every Barry Jenkins there are a dozen Eric Schaeffers. If I can somehow contribute to an environment that makes it easier for Barry's current film to find distribution or his next to get produced, I've accomplished something. This is by no means a lofty goal. A modest proposal for the filmmaking (and film exhibiting) community? Perhaps.
- Jonathan Marlow
Update, 6/2:: Bob Alexander, President of IndiePix, argues "that the traditional models of distribution, which barely work for the major studios, do not work - at all - in some scaled down version for independent film." But "new technologies of the Internet era offer great new possibilities for the community of film fans.... Filmmakers and film-lovers alike should be excited about the evolution of our industry."
Posted by dwhudson at May 31, 2008 8:38 AM
Jonathan --
First off, thanks for the kind words in your original post. A film's budget, or its box-office receipts, shouldn't determine the type of DVD release it receives, and I think we've adequately shown that with Benten's first three titles.
At the same time, there's so much on this topic that I want to say, but probably shouldn't.
Let's just say that not everybody in the world of indie and micro-budget cinema sales and distribution are the heroes they're made out to be. The future of distribution, via the Internet or various on-demand services, is still in its infancy yet there are some claiming to have it all sussed out. The quantity over quality model, in the long run, isn't going to do much to help filmmakers gain the exposure they both desire and deserve.
While online distribution certainly has the promise of even greater democratization, how are consumers going to separate the wheat from the chaff if everything is just dumped in a bucket labeled "Indie"? Don't get me wrong -- I'm all for the new distribution models, but right now it's akin to a game of land grab with everybody snatching up claims before a single well has sprung.
Posted by: Andrew Grant at May 31, 2008 11:23 AMJonathan, my apologies for the inaccurate description of your current position, but the only bio I could find for you when writing that blog post (which was a link round-up, certainly not intended to be a work of investigative journalism) was the one on this page:
http://www.greencine.com/article?action=view&articleID=321
Is there a more up-to-date bio you could refer me to?
Posted by: Jonathan Marlow at May 31, 2008 6:41 PMNice follow up post their Jonathan.
Re: Andrew G's "wheat from the chaff" problem; consumers will buy what they want & what they like; as they always have. as an indie film consumer i don't buy a film just because it is indie or not buy a movie because it is not indie (though i am partial to indie movies because i've liked a lot of them in the past, there are a ton of indie/made outside of Hollywood movies that i don't want to see, & there are a lot of H-wood movies that i have seen), i buy what sounds interesting to me.
in art'/entertainment consumption it is all a matter of taste; but before indie filmmakers can get to that point, their movies need to be available in a consumable format (at a theater, on DVD, available for download, etc.) & potential consumers need to know that it exists.
but inspite of the state of flux that the distro field is in, keep working Benten; it could be a good example of indie film fans & industry workers starting their small labels, for other filmmakers who are frustrated w/ their limited distribution options. and in the long run - in 10 years or so - it could actually turn into the "indie version of criterion" type idea you guys have for it. anyway, the stuff that you are putting out now, will be very interesting to see what those movies are like in 10, 20, 30 years; also people & ideas related to those movies.
and really, no one knows exactly what distro avenue will work for every movie. owners of the films have to try different avenues & see what works. at the least, i think indie filmmakers making their movies available for purchase from their websites/mail order is something that should be done/could be done - if for nothing else than documenting in some transferable (to others) format that a certain movie was made at a certain time by a certain person or a group of people.
- Sujewa
If this and the 1st post on the subject by Jonathan Marlow were a Newspaper article, I would have cut it out and framed it on my wall.
Printing it out from the web and framing it isn't quite the same.
Maybe I'll just print it and carry it in my wallet, sadly there's plenty of free space in there!
Posted by: Jerry Lentz at May 31, 2008 10:33 PMJust home from a weekend of baby showering... thanks for the detailed response, Jonathan. I won't have time this week to post a detailed reply (I will try, but flying to FL tomorrow for some emergency meetings), but quickly...
First, thanks for the kind words about the festival; second, I appreciate the discussion and third, I really took exception to your comparison of festivals to exposure driven distribution deals as both PIMPING filmmakers. I don't think all of us are the same, but your piece only makes two or three distinctions and all of them are qualitative about the size of the events. I take exception to both of those points in your original piece, as well as the common and increasingly popular idea that the festival circuit is essentially an economically inferior replacement for distribution.
Anyway, I appreciate your detailed reply to my taking exception. I'll take more exception as soon as possible... I joke. Quickly though, to clarify: I never have believed that I am somehow beholden to a journalistic standard-- I in no way claim to be a journalist, but still; 40 film festivals attended annually doesn't mean anything in relation to how much you understand of the economics of putting on an event; Maybe you do, but I don't feel that calling us pimps for not paying filmmakers expresses much understanding. I also do have a vested interest in film festivals being economically viable, because I love what they do, I love attending them and working at them, and I love being a programmer. So, if i am thin skinned, it is probably because I hear these same arguments from all types of people; distributors, foreign sales agents, filmmakers, everyone looking to get paid from a system that isn't built to pay. I have written about it many times, and this idea grows like a virus; It is a clear pet peeve of mine, so yes, I may overreact, and apologies if that felt personal, but it is hard to let these comments go when we're fighting really hard to keep our heads above water and deliver on our mission. I appreciate this piece and thanks for the response (and the opportunity to post a quick reply).
Warmest Regards,
Tom
PS- You're always welcome in Sarasota and at any event we host! :)
Posted by: Tom Hall at June 1, 2008 3:41 PMNot to turn this into a back-and-forth, but...
dear Tom,
As you return to Sarasota, I write these words roughly three hours away in Miami (for the first of three speaking engagements this month). Many thanks for responding to my response of your response. I'm not going to pick it apart -- except to further clarify my "economics of film festivals" experience by repeating that I've actually worked (as a programmer, like yourself) for various festivals in the past. I am no stranger to ignorance in many fields but in this one I feel fairly secure.
Regarding your invitation to attend the festival, ideally I'll be able to make an appearance at the next edition. I have plenty of time to plan for it! Furthermore, should I actually attend, I promise not to call you a pimp. In fact, I suspect that we'll get along quite well. I'm relatively reasonable in-person, albeit excessively opinionated. I only pretend to be cantankerous in print.
Meanwhile, I regret one element of the above. I wrote, "For every Barry Jenkins there are a dozen Eric Schaeffers." I should've wrote, "For every Wendell B. Harris Jr..." instead. That makes the point much better than referencing Barry for the half-dozenth time. Barry Jenkins will seemingly continue along the filmmaking path for the foreseeable future. It isn't clear if Wendell Harris will ever make another movie.
systematically,
Jonathan







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